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Saturday, November 11, 2006
Tuesday, November 07, 2006
Questions
from: Patrick
Until the late 70's, early 80's, there was a building in the city of Euclid, on Euclid Avenue, just West of E. 260th. (where the current retirement home is, on the south side of Euclid Ave) I remember relatives saying it was "the nut house" and I think it was the old Ridgecliff Psych Hospital, before it became Laurelwood and moved to Willoughby. Anybody able to offer any insight to me? Second part, also on the east side. Warrensville Heights, where the current Metro Health Skilled Nursing facility is (on the same property as Tri-C East). I have heard conflicting stories on this property. Is this the old Sunny Acres Hospital, which treated TB? The old nurses dorm (so I've been told) still stands, and from the outside, looks like it's in pretty bad shape, and is supposedly haunted. Any truth to that? Third (and final) part... across the street from Tri-C East (where the Armed Forces Recruiting building is). There was (until 2000 or 2001) a group of buildings that was possibly the forerunner of the County Hospital which I've been told treated the poor, and psych patients. The buildings looked reallllly creepy before they were torn down. Is the info I got accurate? Any insight you could give would be appreciated.
Patrick
Until the late 70's, early 80's, there was a building in the city of Euclid, on Euclid Avenue, just West of E. 260th. (where the current retirement home is, on the south side of Euclid Ave) I remember relatives saying it was "the nut house" and I think it was the old Ridgecliff Psych Hospital, before it became Laurelwood and moved to Willoughby. Anybody able to offer any insight to me? Second part, also on the east side. Warrensville Heights, where the current Metro Health Skilled Nursing facility is (on the same property as Tri-C East). I have heard conflicting stories on this property. Is this the old Sunny Acres Hospital, which treated TB? The old nurses dorm (so I've been told) still stands, and from the outside, looks like it's in pretty bad shape, and is supposedly haunted. Any truth to that? Third (and final) part... across the street from Tri-C East (where the Armed Forces Recruiting building is). There was (until 2000 or 2001) a group of buildings that was possibly the forerunner of the County Hospital which I've been told treated the poor, and psych patients. The buildings looked reallllly creepy before they were torn down. Is the info I got accurate? Any insight you could give would be appreciated.
Patrick
Thursday, November 02, 2006
Wednesday, November 01, 2006
Question about Wisner/Windsor Rd.
from: Joe Costello
Hi,
A couple months ago I had to write a 10 page paper on the melon heads for a college class, yes, a college class. For the paper I actually had to go out to what was said to be the sight and take some pictures to show that I was there. Anyway, thank-you, your sight was a big help.
Now for the real reason of this e-mail. From this sight and others like it, I have heard people say that this house is on both Wisner Rd. and Windsor Rd. I was wondering which is true. Also, when I went to "the sight"on Wisner Rd. there were three separate bridges, one that you would cross coming down hill from King Memorial Rd. As you would go on the road kind of splits off, the main road goes left while a dirt road branches off to the right. On this dirt road there are signs about a bridge being out 27 miles down the road. Anyway, right as you turn onto this road there is another smaller bridge, then as you travel less than and 1/8th of a mile more there is one more small bridge with signs saying that the load capacity of the bridge has been lowered by 10%. About 30 feet after the bridge, the road is blocked off with a bunch of wooden barriers. 10 feet before that though is a driveway blocked off by two gaits about 3 to 4 feet high that swing together and lock. This gait is only to keep cars out, but does nothing to prevent people from stepping over or walking around it. This driveway split off almost immediately after the gait one went around to the side somewhere, and one seemed to go up to the hill to what I guess would be the house. Now, I have three questions. Which of these three bridges is cry baby bridge (If Wisner is the right road, and not Windsor)? Is the dirt road that veers off to the right, the right road? And is the house the right house, or is there another empty house further along the road, somewhere past the road block? Any of these that you, or anyone else could answer would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Joe Costello
Hi,
A couple months ago I had to write a 10 page paper on the melon heads for a college class, yes, a college class. For the paper I actually had to go out to what was said to be the sight and take some pictures to show that I was there. Anyway, thank-you, your sight was a big help.
Now for the real reason of this e-mail. From this sight and others like it, I have heard people say that this house is on both Wisner Rd. and Windsor Rd. I was wondering which is true. Also, when I went to "the sight"on Wisner Rd. there were three separate bridges, one that you would cross coming down hill from King Memorial Rd. As you would go on the road kind of splits off, the main road goes left while a dirt road branches off to the right. On this dirt road there are signs about a bridge being out 27 miles down the road. Anyway, right as you turn onto this road there is another smaller bridge, then as you travel less than and 1/8th of a mile more there is one more small bridge with signs saying that the load capacity of the bridge has been lowered by 10%. About 30 feet after the bridge, the road is blocked off with a bunch of wooden barriers. 10 feet before that though is a driveway blocked off by two gaits about 3 to 4 feet high that swing together and lock. This gait is only to keep cars out, but does nothing to prevent people from stepping over or walking around it. This driveway split off almost immediately after the gait one went around to the side somewhere, and one seemed to go up to the hill to what I guess would be the house. Now, I have three questions. Which of these three bridges is cry baby bridge (If Wisner is the right road, and not Windsor)? Is the dirt road that veers off to the right, the right road? And is the house the right house, or is there another empty house further along the road, somewhere past the road block? Any of these that you, or anyone else could answer would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Joe Costello
Gore Orphanage
from: Barb
Hey,
I've been to Gore Orphanage or at least what's left of it. I went once during the day and once at night. Now let me tell you, it's fine during the day but at night it's one scary place........and I didnt even get out of the car. My mom, uncle, little sister, and two little cousins got out and started to walk into the woods, about 1min. later they all came running back to the cars, they all said they saw the same exact thing......2 eyes glowing at about chin height to my mom and uncle who are about 6ft tall. They all said they saw the same thing and it was so scary it made my little cousin who is 7 cry. But they all said as soon as they saw it it went away and they also said it could not have been an animal (most likely a deer because of the height) because when it went away it was silent there was no noise at all! Pretty Scary Huh? You should go there.
Hey,
I've been to Gore Orphanage or at least what's left of it. I went once during the day and once at night. Now let me tell you, it's fine during the day but at night it's one scary place........and I didnt even get out of the car. My mom, uncle, little sister, and two little cousins got out and started to walk into the woods, about 1min. later they all came running back to the cars, they all said they saw the same exact thing......2 eyes glowing at about chin height to my mom and uncle who are about 6ft tall. They all said they saw the same thing and it was so scary it made my little cousin who is 7 cry. But they all said as soon as they saw it it went away and they also said it could not have been an animal (most likely a deer because of the height) because when it went away it was silent there was no noise at all! Pretty Scary Huh? You should go there.
Franklin Castle
from: Bill
I loved your site and you had a good deal of info on the Franklin castle, but there were quite a few things that were incorrect. first off, let me introduce myself. my name is William Krejci and I've been researching the Franklin castle for well over 13 years. in that time, I've had a chance to learn more about Hannes Tiedemann than nearly anyone else alive today and that includes his descendants (yes, he does have living descendants despite common belief).
It is true that August died in 1906 and yes, his 2 sons did die at young ages as well, but not until 1929 and 1934. the younger of the two, Carl H. Tiedemann was married to a woman named May Glenn and they had two children... one of which is still alive and resides in new york.
August wasn't the only child to survive to adulthood. he had a younger sister named Dora who married a man named Wiebenson (Hannes Tiedemann's successor as president of the united savings and banking co. they had 5 sons, 4 of which lived to adulthood and had children of their own... most of which are still living.
also, the house fell victim to arson in 1999, was sold and is now being restored by a man named Milsaps who has intentions of turning it into a private club.
I have much more info on the house and family who built it. I also have quite an interesting collection of photos from within the house that contain many orbs. feel free to contact me back. I'd be more than happy to share with you what info I have.
I loved your site and you had a good deal of info on the Franklin castle, but there were quite a few things that were incorrect. first off, let me introduce myself. my name is William Krejci and I've been researching the Franklin castle for well over 13 years. in that time, I've had a chance to learn more about Hannes Tiedemann than nearly anyone else alive today and that includes his descendants (yes, he does have living descendants despite common belief).
It is true that August died in 1906 and yes, his 2 sons did die at young ages as well, but not until 1929 and 1934. the younger of the two, Carl H. Tiedemann was married to a woman named May Glenn and they had two children... one of which is still alive and resides in new york.
August wasn't the only child to survive to adulthood. he had a younger sister named Dora who married a man named Wiebenson (Hannes Tiedemann's successor as president of the united savings and banking co. they had 5 sons, 4 of which lived to adulthood and had children of their own... most of which are still living.
also, the house fell victim to arson in 1999, was sold and is now being restored by a man named Milsaps who has intentions of turning it into a private club.
I have much more info on the house and family who built it. I also have quite an interesting collection of photos from within the house that contain many orbs. feel free to contact me back. I'd be more than happy to share with you what info I have.
melon heads
I live in Mentor Ohio right next to Kirtland and have heard many stories about the melon heads.
But hears the story that makes most sense to me . Dr.Crowe is really Crowestein and he was a scientist for the government who had a beautiful wife. They live back in the secluded woods of Kirtland hills. They had children that were mentally and physically ill. They had very large heads and "slow " so to speak. One day his wife died and caused the melon heads much anger and despair so they went on a rampage killing them and Dr. Crowestein and their ghosts still roam the woods angry about the loss of their mother.
I have personally gone what we call melon head hunting the first thing you have to know is that people actually live back there and it is private property. Second that Wisnor road the road that you are supposed to go down is closed half way and is split in two. The Wisnor road that you take to get to crybaby bridge is not off of mentor road it is on the other side. Third is that it is illegal to park back their so you might want to do it in the summer time so that you can park your car someplace else and walk there. But if you do not want to actually get out of the car but still want to get chills you could go to crybaby bridge. Once you are at crybaby bridge you are supposed to park your car half on and half off the bridge roll down the window and shut the car off at midnight. you are supposed to hear at first just the rushing of water but then that picks up into wheezing then scratching on your car comes and before you know it all that stops and their is only the faint crying of a baby in the distance.
(P.S. It really is illegal to park back their me and my friends did and got in trouble for it because people call the cops on us. So be careful.)
But hears the story that makes most sense to me . Dr.Crowe is really Crowestein and he was a scientist for the government who had a beautiful wife. They live back in the secluded woods of Kirtland hills. They had children that were mentally and physically ill. They had very large heads and "slow " so to speak. One day his wife died and caused the melon heads much anger and despair so they went on a rampage killing them and Dr. Crowestein and their ghosts still roam the woods angry about the loss of their mother.
I have personally gone what we call melon head hunting the first thing you have to know is that people actually live back there and it is private property. Second that Wisnor road the road that you are supposed to go down is closed half way and is split in two. The Wisnor road that you take to get to crybaby bridge is not off of mentor road it is on the other side. Third is that it is illegal to park back their so you might want to do it in the summer time so that you can park your car someplace else and walk there. But if you do not want to actually get out of the car but still want to get chills you could go to crybaby bridge. Once you are at crybaby bridge you are supposed to park your car half on and half off the bridge roll down the window and shut the car off at midnight. you are supposed to hear at first just the rushing of water but then that picks up into wheezing then scratching on your car comes and before you know it all that stops and their is only the faint crying of a baby in the distance.
(P.S. It really is illegal to park back their me and my friends did and got in trouble for it because people call the cops on us. So be careful.)
Melon-heads
Hello.
I am only 13 years old, so yes I am young, even though I look to be about 17, and I know that this site is called Creepy Cleveland, but I must say something; Oregon has melon-heads too. At least, a few.
It was two years ago when I was in 6th grade, and I had just moved to Philomath so, naturally, I was exploring on my bike. I rode past what the kids at school said used to be an old chemical plant, and intrigued (and being a stupid but curious 11 year old girl), I went inside. Made of rusty metal, big as a cathedral, and stank like sewage. Had a flashlight, nothing more. Began looking around, checking things out. It was strangely clean for being abandoned for as long as it had been. I ventured through a small space in the wall and entered what appeared to be a hidden compartment of sorts. And in it sat what seemed like a small child. But when it looked up at me... it was... twisted. There was something wrong with it; it's head was too big, or it's body too small. I reached out to touch it and it drew back, baring what appeared to be long, razor-like teeth. Naturally I got out of there as fast as I could, and I ran down to the police station. They told me sternly that there was no such thing as what I was describing, and the more I talked the angrier they got. They let me off with a warning, and they told me that if I ventured by there again they would have to take me downtown. I asked a few locals, Ms. Wooder, Tony, my best friend, and Old Man Johnson (he hated it when we called him that), and all of them seemed too scared to talk about it. Almost like they were forbidden.
The next time I went back the chemical plant had been torn down, and all that
was left was a big hole in the ground...
I am only 13 years old, so yes I am young, even though I look to be about 17, and I know that this site is called Creepy Cleveland, but I must say something; Oregon has melon-heads too. At least, a few.
It was two years ago when I was in 6th grade, and I had just moved to Philomath so, naturally, I was exploring on my bike. I rode past what the kids at school said used to be an old chemical plant, and intrigued (and being a stupid but curious 11 year old girl), I went inside. Made of rusty metal, big as a cathedral, and stank like sewage. Had a flashlight, nothing more. Began looking around, checking things out. It was strangely clean for being abandoned for as long as it had been. I ventured through a small space in the wall and entered what appeared to be a hidden compartment of sorts. And in it sat what seemed like a small child. But when it looked up at me... it was... twisted. There was something wrong with it; it's head was too big, or it's body too small. I reached out to touch it and it drew back, baring what appeared to be long, razor-like teeth. Naturally I got out of there as fast as I could, and I ran down to the police station. They told me sternly that there was no such thing as what I was describing, and the more I talked the angrier they got. They let me off with a warning, and they told me that if I ventured by there again they would have to take me downtown. I asked a few locals, Ms. Wooder, Tony, my best friend, and Old Man Johnson (he hated it when we called him that), and all of them seemed too scared to talk about it. Almost like they were forbidden.
The next time I went back the chemical plant had been torn down, and all that
was left was a big hole in the ground...
What's with all the Creepy Clevelands?
I've been busy the last couple days trying to get Creepy Cleveland re-established and back online. I'm editing posts, reformatting stories and hacking away at the old website so I can integrate it with the new site. During this time I've googled (yes, I'm allowed to use google as a verb - I used the Google Search Engine!) Creepy Cleveland a few times to see what's already out there. Wow. There are quite a few Creepy Clevelands out there. In case you're confused about your search results, let me try to clear things up a little:
http://erielink.com/~reddeath/CreepyCle.html - this is where Creepy Cleveland was born. (See archive.org's cache of the Original Creepy Cleveland) Erielink was a gracious host, but after my 56k modem ate itself, I moved to DSL and Creepy Cleveland had to go with me. This address might still pop up on the internet once in a while. (Mostly because of this.)
http://otherworlds.homeip.net/creepy/ - Short lived, but a great experience. A site visitor, Mark Budnick offered to give me hosting space on his server! While never charging me, he put up with some heavy duty traffic during Halloween season of 2002. Mark rules.
http://creepycleveland.neopages.net - This was kind of a long story. In mid October, 2002, while trying to get off of Mark's server, I started looking for a new host, I found Neopages. They were unique in the fact that they offered free hosting, with a catch. You must have an established page already and be willing to put your page up for a vote by the current members. They stress originality and style. Well...I figured I'd give it a shot and entered an application. After getting beat up by some of the critiques, I figured I didn't have a chance. Then - lo and behold - I got accepted!! See archive.org's screenshot. Unfortunately, the community within Neopages bred some contempt from hackers. The entire host got hacked. Many pages were lost and had to be restored from backup. A couple months later, the server the site was hosted on got hosed. Bad luck? Indeed. Creepy Cleveland was in limbo.
http://creepycleveland.net - Until now, this is the most recent version of Creepy Cleveland. After the neopages fiasco, I did have the site back on neopages for a short time, but I knew I needed to look into something more permanent. About this time I started having a hard time keeping Creepy Cleveland updated and interesting. After thinking it over for a long time I made the decision to shut it down. I was afraid the final move lost too many visitors and traffic to the site ground to a halt. I posted a message to the few people that managed to keep track of the site address, zipped up the files and closed the door.
A few months later I got an email from a fan asking if I'd like for him to host the site. Halloween 2005 was coming up and I had received a few emails from people asking if I was ever going to come back. Hmmm.... somebody else host Creepy Cleveland? Again? After thinking it over, I thought the site would do more good online than rotting on my backup hard drive. Billy Meade took over hosting and has kept the page available until now. Billy rules too.
http://creepycleveland.blogspot.com - The latest and (hopefully) greatest incarnation of Creepy Cleveland. Born on Halloween 2006, I've turned the stories (which were by far the most popular part of the site) over to a blog format. I'm hoping it will make questions and comments on the stories easier to make, answer and follow. The backed up version of the old site is getting a slow makeover in the hopes of becoming and back-end host to all the old content, new investigations, and file storage. If you care to rummage through the mess, check out the Creepy Cleveland Archive.
So there you have it. Practically every version of Creepy Cleveland that's out there, in one form or another. I've already sent an email to Billy asking him to post a redirection link on creepycleveland.net and I'm hoping to talk him into letting me grab the domain once it expires.
A final piece of advice, if I may offer it, is to bookmark http://go.to/creepycleveland. Unless that redirection service goes down, that address will always point to the correct address.
UPDATE 2009: I'm dropping the Blogger address (http://creepycleveland.blogspot.com). I've secured creepycleveland.net and am redirecting all traffic to that address.
http://erielink.com/~reddeath/CreepyCle.html - this is where Creepy Cleveland was born. (See archive.org's cache of the Original Creepy Cleveland) Erielink was a gracious host, but after my 56k modem ate itself, I moved to DSL and Creepy Cleveland had to go with me. This address might still pop up on the internet once in a while. (Mostly because of this.)
http://otherworlds.homeip.net/creepy/ - Short lived, but a great experience. A site visitor, Mark Budnick offered to give me hosting space on his server! While never charging me, he put up with some heavy duty traffic during Halloween season of 2002. Mark rules.
http://creepycleveland.neopages.net - This was kind of a long story. In mid October, 2002, while trying to get off of Mark's server, I started looking for a new host, I found Neopages. They were unique in the fact that they offered free hosting, with a catch. You must have an established page already and be willing to put your page up for a vote by the current members. They stress originality and style. Well...I figured I'd give it a shot and entered an application. After getting beat up by some of the critiques, I figured I didn't have a chance. Then - lo and behold - I got accepted!! See archive.org's screenshot. Unfortunately, the community within Neopages bred some contempt from hackers. The entire host got hacked. Many pages were lost and had to be restored from backup. A couple months later, the server the site was hosted on got hosed. Bad luck? Indeed. Creepy Cleveland was in limbo.
http://creepycleveland.net - Until now, this is the most recent version of Creepy Cleveland. After the neopages fiasco, I did have the site back on neopages for a short time, but I knew I needed to look into something more permanent. About this time I started having a hard time keeping Creepy Cleveland updated and interesting. After thinking it over for a long time I made the decision to shut it down. I was afraid the final move lost too many visitors and traffic to the site ground to a halt. I posted a message to the few people that managed to keep track of the site address, zipped up the files and closed the door.
A few months later I got an email from a fan asking if I'd like for him to host the site. Halloween 2005 was coming up and I had received a few emails from people asking if I was ever going to come back. Hmmm.... somebody else host Creepy Cleveland? Again? After thinking it over, I thought the site would do more good online than rotting on my backup hard drive. Billy Meade took over hosting and has kept the page available until now. Billy rules too.
http://creepycleveland.blogspot.com - The latest and (hopefully) greatest incarnation of Creepy Cleveland. Born on Halloween 2006, I've turned the stories (which were by far the most popular part of the site) over to a blog format. I'm hoping it will make questions and comments on the stories easier to make, answer and follow. The backed up version of the old site is getting a slow makeover in the hopes of becoming and back-end host to all the old content, new investigations, and file storage. If you care to rummage through the mess, check out the Creepy Cleveland Archive.
So there you have it. Practically every version of Creepy Cleveland that's out there, in one form or another. I've already sent an email to Billy asking him to post a redirection link on creepycleveland.net and I'm hoping to talk him into letting me grab the domain once it expires.
A final piece of advice, if I may offer it, is to bookmark http://go.to/creepycleveland. Unless that redirection service goes down, that address will always point to the correct address.
UPDATE 2009: I'm dropping the Blogger address (http://creepycleveland.blogspot.com). I've secured creepycleveland.net and am redirecting all traffic to that address.
Frazee House, Pilgerruh Cemetary (off Canal Road/Tinkers Creek Rd.)
This past weekend I went on a Urban Legends Tour of the Cuyahoga Valley National Park. We stopped at the Frazee House which belongs to the park system and is located off Canal Road, just south of the visitor's center. As we roamed around the exterior of the home I snapped some pictures...I later got home and enlarged them and changed the brightness to see if I saw anything unusual...Do you see what I see? Supposedly a Native American Indian was held at this home as a slave and was killed.
The second picture was taken at Pilgerruh Cemetery in the same area. It is likely the oldest cemetery in Ohio. You would never know the cemetery existed if someone didn't show you or tell you where it is...you have to walk up a long dirt hill and past a grassy field. There are no signs whatsoever to tell you there is a cemetery. The cemetery cannot be seen from the road. There isn't a parking lot and you can't drive to it. Anyways, it was just me and my sister walking around and I heard the kids yelling and laughing, so I turned to her and said "I guess were not alone, do you hear those kids?" She looked at me with a blank stare and shook her head no. The voices were pretty loud and clear to me so I was somewhat surprised. We walked down this small hill approaching the graves and I asked her again, "You don't hear those kids?" She said "Well, I think I hear something, but turn around and take a picture anyways." So, this is the picture I took. We never did see any kids in the area...
The second picture was taken at Pilgerruh Cemetery in the same area. It is likely the oldest cemetery in Ohio. You would never know the cemetery existed if someone didn't show you or tell you where it is...you have to walk up a long dirt hill and past a grassy field. There are no signs whatsoever to tell you there is a cemetery. The cemetery cannot be seen from the road. There isn't a parking lot and you can't drive to it. Anyways, it was just me and my sister walking around and I heard the kids yelling and laughing, so I turned to her and said "I guess were not alone, do you hear those kids?" She looked at me with a blank stare and shook her head no. The voices were pretty loud and clear to me so I was somewhat surprised. We walked down this small hill approaching the graves and I asked her again, "You don't hear those kids?" She said "Well, I think I hear something, but turn around and take a picture anyways." So, this is the picture I took. We never did see any kids in the area...
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This photo was taken at Mansfield Reformatory a week ago...friday the 27th. We felt a very rapid temperature drop and a very distinct presence moving past us (in solitary)...i snapped this photo....other than cropping the top off the pic its untouched.